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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://web.overland.org.au/2010/01/19/novel-writers/comment-page-1/#comment-3038</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 05:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, nothing beats diving head long into a good novel. I do find it upsetting though that a great majority of people I know can hardly read.
Well, they can read alright, but if it&#039;s more than one page long and not in dot point format and requires a bit of thought and interpretation then it&#039;s just too much thought.
Not to mention the countless times I have used basic English in conversationa and get told - &quot;stop using big words Tetls!&quot; for words like &#039;determine&#039; ... what the hell?

And I must admit Mark, I am one of those commuters with an iPod, but I multitask and read while I listen to it.
Unfortunately, the only opportunity I get to read is while on the train and and the bus, but I will take advantage of this time while I can!
It is a shame though, that because I want to get my HECS debt of my back I have no time to actually finish a chapter a day, and all my blogging and commenting on blogs and writing must be done while hidden in the back room at work.
It would seem to me that if anything were to truly kill the novel, it would be a little goblin called Debt.
When I do find one of the elusive and rare people who read in the low socio-economic neighbourhoods I live in, a common complaint I hear from all of them is &quot;I just don&#039;t have time to read anymore&quot; or &quot;I just can&#039;t afford to buy the books&quot;.

So the blog is not the enemy. In fact, the blog makes many things accessible to people who find literature a little out of reach.
Because a lot of Blog posts are short, many people who would not normally have time in their day to read can spare a few minutes for a quick gander at their their favourite blog. Plus near everyone has access to the internet these days, be it at home, work or a friends house.

One thing I would love to see die are those God damned PSPs. I do not want to hear somebody elses freakin&#039; game played at full volumn in the bus, on the train, and definately NOT in the god damned waiting room!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, nothing beats diving head long into a good novel. I do find it upsetting though that a great majority of people I know can hardly read.<br />
Well, they can read alright, but if it&#8217;s more than one page long and not in dot point format and requires a bit of thought and interpretation then it&#8217;s just too much thought.<br />
Not to mention the countless times I have used basic English in conversationa and get told &#8211; &#8220;stop using big words Tetls!&#8221; for words like &#8216;determine&#8217; &#8230; what the hell?</p>
<p>And I must admit Mark, I am one of those commuters with an iPod, but I multitask and read while I listen to it.<br />
Unfortunately, the only opportunity I get to read is while on the train and and the bus, but I will take advantage of this time while I can!<br />
It is a shame though, that because I want to get my HECS debt of my back I have no time to actually finish a chapter a day, and all my blogging and commenting on blogs and writing must be done while hidden in the back room at work.<br />
It would seem to me that if anything were to truly kill the novel, it would be a little goblin called Debt.<br />
When I do find one of the elusive and rare people who read in the low socio-economic neighbourhoods I live in, a common complaint I hear from all of them is &#8220;I just don&#8217;t have time to read anymore&#8221; or &#8220;I just can&#8217;t afford to buy the books&#8221;.</p>
<p>So the blog is not the enemy. In fact, the blog makes many things accessible to people who find literature a little out of reach.<br />
Because a lot of Blog posts are short, many people who would not normally have time in their day to read can spare a few minutes for a quick gander at their their favourite blog. Plus near everyone has access to the internet these days, be it at home, work or a friends house.</p>
<p>One thing I would love to see die are those God damned PSPs. I do not want to hear somebody elses freakin&#8217; game played at full volumn in the bus, on the train, and definately NOT in the god damned waiting room!</p>
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		<title>By: ashley capes</title>
		<link>http://web.overland.org.au/2010/01/19/novel-writers/comment-page-1/#comment-3035</link>
		<dc:creator>ashley capes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 02:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this post, Alec (and everyone for the great discussion) loved reading it.

I agree with Alec - the instant communication between reader &amp; author is a powerful tool, and it doesn&#039;t really exist in print culture - which is, by nature, private. Although, like Alec said, performance and public readings is a little different (but usually without a lot of words between participants ie: reader &amp; listener)

...where was I going? Yes, the community that can be built in the blog world is great, a real positive in the quick-fix online world - I think, Mark is spot on too, with public consumption habits - it&#039;s shifted from books to ipod etc - which suggests the desire for some sort of &#039;portability of the private sphere&#039; I think.  We seem to want to cocoon ourselves in information media everywhere we go.

But (struggling here) to get back to the topic, I&#039;m pro-blog, we take the good with the bad everywhere else, so why not in the cyber-world of writing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this post, Alec (and everyone for the great discussion) loved reading it.</p>
<p>I agree with Alec &#8211; the instant communication between reader &amp; author is a powerful tool, and it doesn&#8217;t really exist in print culture &#8211; which is, by nature, private. Although, like Alec said, performance and public readings is a little different (but usually without a lot of words between participants ie: reader &amp; listener)</p>
<p>&#8230;where was I going? Yes, the community that can be built in the blog world is great, a real positive in the quick-fix online world &#8211; I think, Mark is spot on too, with public consumption habits &#8211; it&#8217;s shifted from books to ipod etc &#8211; which suggests the desire for some sort of &#8216;portability of the private sphere&#8217; I think.  We seem to want to cocoon ourselves in information media everywhere we go.</p>
<p>But (struggling here) to get back to the topic, I&#8217;m pro-blog, we take the good with the bad everywhere else, so why not in the cyber-world of writing?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark William Jackson</title>
		<link>http://web.overland.org.au/2010/01/19/novel-writers/comment-page-1/#comment-3034</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark William Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love it all, print and online, as long as it&#039;s good, and I think that there is room for both media to co-exist and collaborate. I agree with Nigel, and the general consensus, that there is an awful lot of blogs claiming to be literature that do nothing but severely dilute the good stuff. This is where Karen&#039;s book is such a fresh idea, selected blog posts for a print book satsifies a dual need and embraces both media. I hope this proves itself as an ongoing series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it all, print and online, as long as it&#8217;s good, and I think that there is room for both media to co-exist and collaborate. I agree with Nigel, and the general consensus, that there is an awful lot of blogs claiming to be literature that do nothing but severely dilute the good stuff. This is where Karen&#8217;s book is such a fresh idea, selected blog posts for a print book satsifies a dual need and embraces both media. I hope this proves itself as an ongoing series.</p>
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		<title>By: Koraly</title>
		<link>http://web.overland.org.au/2010/01/19/novel-writers/comment-page-1/#comment-3033</link>
		<dc:creator>Koraly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like writing my blog pieces when the emotions are raw, in a fit of rage, a few hours. Can&#039;t get that with print. By the time it&#039;s published, it&#039;s old news. Tell your friend to get with the times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like writing my blog pieces when the emotions are raw, in a fit of rage, a few hours. Can&#8217;t get that with print. By the time it&#8217;s published, it&#8217;s old news. Tell your friend to get with the times.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Featherstone</title>
		<link>http://web.overland.org.au/2010/01/19/novel-writers/comment-page-1/#comment-3032</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Featherstone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 09:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed this post very much, and the subsequent comments.  I agree that good writing can occur no matter what the format, and there&#039;s certainly some great writing going on in the world of blogs (but geez there&#039;s some complete shit as well).  I also agree that sometimes a blog written two minutes after something wonderful - or otherwise - has happened to a writer has a rush and energy to it that sometimes gets polished out through other mediums.  BUT I was thinking last night, after an evening of blog-management and blog reading, that there&#039;s still nothing like sitting down with a book, probably on the couch or the back deck or in bed, and getting immersed in real ink on real pages.  I&#039;ve also been thinking about the soulfulness of blogging compared to the soulfulness of the physical book, and call me an old romantic (or, worse, out of date) but I fear there might be more soul on the page than there is on the screen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed this post very much, and the subsequent comments.  I agree that good writing can occur no matter what the format, and there&#8217;s certainly some great writing going on in the world of blogs (but geez there&#8217;s some complete shit as well).  I also agree that sometimes a blog written two minutes after something wonderful &#8211; or otherwise &#8211; has happened to a writer has a rush and energy to it that sometimes gets polished out through other mediums.  BUT I was thinking last night, after an evening of blog-management and blog reading, that there&#8217;s still nothing like sitting down with a book, probably on the couch or the back deck or in bed, and getting immersed in real ink on real pages.  I&#8217;ve also been thinking about the soulfulness of blogging compared to the soulfulness of the physical book, and call me an old romantic (or, worse, out of date) but I fear there might be more soul on the page than there is on the screen.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen (miscmum)</title>
		<link>http://web.overland.org.au/2010/01/19/novel-writers/comment-page-1/#comment-3031</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen (miscmum)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 09:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your eloquence is, as ever, spot-on Alec. Thank you for the mention :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your eloquence is, as ever, spot-on Alec. Thank you for the mention <img src='http://web.overland.org.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mark William Jackson</title>
		<link>http://web.overland.org.au/2010/01/19/novel-writers/comment-page-1/#comment-3029</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark William Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 07:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the novel will die, however, I do see it falling into a niche market. These are just my observations from days when I used to catch public transport. Where novels and newspapers once held a monopoly on the bored transit passengers, this market is now opened to iPods, portable DVD players and laptops. People have a vast array of ways to be fed information, I was one of the novel readers and will remain so as I can use the other information feeds elsewhere. I severely hope that I am wrong but I just think that the general population is moving faster than ever and its attention span has gotten shorter, blog feeds and podcasts offer automated snippets of information. And who would have thought years ago that we would want to constrain ourselves to communicate in less than 140 characters?

As I said I hope I am wrong, I type this surrounded by books, beside a 1970&#039;s portable Olivetti typewriter, while I listen to the B-52s (that one&#039;s for you Alec!) on a record player, next week I am going to see Echo and the Bunnymen at the classic Enmore Theatre. I embrace nostalgia but accept change :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the novel will die, however, I do see it falling into a niche market. These are just my observations from days when I used to catch public transport. Where novels and newspapers once held a monopoly on the bored transit passengers, this market is now opened to iPods, portable DVD players and laptops. People have a vast array of ways to be fed information, I was one of the novel readers and will remain so as I can use the other information feeds elsewhere. I severely hope that I am wrong but I just think that the general population is moving faster than ever and its attention span has gotten shorter, blog feeds and podcasts offer automated snippets of information. And who would have thought years ago that we would want to constrain ourselves to communicate in less than 140 characters?</p>
<p>As I said I hope I am wrong, I type this surrounded by books, beside a 1970&#8217;s portable Olivetti typewriter, while I listen to the B-52s (that one&#8217;s for you Alec!) on a record player, next week I am going to see Echo and the Bunnymen at the classic Enmore Theatre. I embrace nostalgia but accept change <img src='http://web.overland.org.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Alec Patric</title>
		<link>http://web.overland.org.au/2010/01/19/novel-writers/comment-page-1/#comment-3028</link>
		<dc:creator>Alec Patric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 06:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the video player came out there were people who said all the cinemas would close. What actually happened was that films became more visually dynamic and people continued to go to the cinema. When cable TV (HBO) became readily available/affordable, television evolved into a fully mature medium, unafraid of petty censorship and proscriptive moral codes. 

Blogging and the Internet aren&#039;t threats to print media (outside of newspapers perhaps --&gt; which are mostly advertising pamphlets anyway, when they aren&#039;t just fear mongering establishment propaganda.) The novel already is the perfect medium for a very long, involved transmission of experience and feeling. 

Blogging and other forms of expression arising from the Internet, offer more abbreviated connections in contrast, but what&#039;s interesting is what this new medium might develop as unique characteristics all its own. What becomes possible with this new medium is communal aesthetics and understanding, a responsiveness between author and reader, reader and author, until the distinction isn&#039;t even relevant anymore. 

And who knows what else? But for me, the novel is in its prime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the video player came out there were people who said all the cinemas would close. What actually happened was that films became more visually dynamic and people continued to go to the cinema. When cable TV (HBO) became readily available/affordable, television evolved into a fully mature medium, unafraid of petty censorship and proscriptive moral codes. </p>
<p>Blogging and the Internet aren&#8217;t threats to print media (outside of newspapers perhaps &#8211;&gt; which are mostly advertising pamphlets anyway, when they aren&#8217;t just fear mongering establishment propaganda.) The novel already is the perfect medium for a very long, involved transmission of experience and feeling. </p>
<p>Blogging and other forms of expression arising from the Internet, offer more abbreviated connections in contrast, but what&#8217;s interesting is what this new medium might develop as unique characteristics all its own. What becomes possible with this new medium is communal aesthetics and understanding, a responsiveness between author and reader, reader and author, until the distinction isn&#8217;t even relevant anymore. </p>
<p>And who knows what else? But for me, the novel is in its prime.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 04:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would definately hate to see the death of print media, but I do enjoy trailing the blogosphere for decent material. It is hard to find a good blog, but there are some fantastic ones out there.

I definately don&#039;t think blogging will ever be the &#039;be all and end all&#039; of literature. The novel will survive, but with a little blog on the side to keep it company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would definately hate to see the death of print media, but I do enjoy trailing the blogosphere for decent material. It is hard to find a good blog, but there are some fantastic ones out there.</p>
<p>I definately don&#8217;t think blogging will ever be the &#8216;be all and end all&#8217; of literature. The novel will survive, but with a little blog on the side to keep it company.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark William Jackson</title>
		<link>http://web.overland.org.au/2010/01/19/novel-writers/comment-page-1/#comment-3025</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark William Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 03:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Viva la blogolution Comrade Alec. A very well articulated piece. Also note that in order to make a comprehensive selection for the Penguins Books &#039;Best Australian Poetry&#039; series editors source works from print and online journals and many personal blogs. 

Technologically, this is a fantastic time in which we live, raw written material can be thrown online, someone around the corner or across the world can comment, suggest improvements, collaborate with music or visual arts. All within a matter of minutes. Print media has its place but it should certainly not consider itself well above new media, because, sad to say, one media has a clear future where the other is questionable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Viva la blogolution Comrade Alec. A very well articulated piece. Also note that in order to make a comprehensive selection for the Penguins Books &#8216;Best Australian Poetry&#8217; series editors source works from print and online journals and many personal blogs. </p>
<p>Technologically, this is a fantastic time in which we live, raw written material can be thrown online, someone around the corner or across the world can comment, suggest improvements, collaborate with music or visual arts. All within a matter of minutes. Print media has its place but it should certainly not consider itself well above new media, because, sad to say, one media has a clear future where the other is questionable.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://web.overland.org.au/2010/01/19/novel-writers/comment-page-1/#comment-3022</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I don&#039;t know that the internet has yet to create its own grammar, what about lolcats?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I don&#8217;t know that the internet has yet to create its own grammar, what about lolcats?</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great piece! I think we should all relax about the rumoured end of the book or the novel or whatever. We aren&#039;t going to suddenly stop being creative just because formats change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great piece! I think we should all relax about the rumoured end of the book or the novel or whatever. We aren&#8217;t going to suddenly stop being creative just because formats change.</p>
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