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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coming from an internet junky and obsessive warhammer nerd, I definately need to switch the interenet off. Or better yet, have a friend take the chord connectong the router to the phone line and have him/her only give it up if I can give them a compelling argument as to why I need it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coming from an internet junky and obsessive warhammer nerd, I definately need to switch the interenet off. Or better yet, have a friend take the chord connectong the router to the phone line and have him/her only give it up if I can give them a compelling argument as to why I need it.</p>
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		<title>By: ashley capes</title>
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		<dc:creator>ashley capes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 10:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And switching the net off is another great one, Koraly - I definitely need to take that advice at times</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And switching the net off is another great one, Koraly &#8211; I definitely need to take that advice at times</p>
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		<title>By: Soph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 06:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree about reading... and beat myself up constantly about not doing enough (even though I probably am). I&#039;m always astounded by how much I learn about writing from reading, and never sure why it comes as such a surprise each time.

And I also agree that the internet (and mobile phones that allow you to check your email) are evil. 

The only other thing I would add is to remember that writing is hard work and that you&#039;ll probably hate it sometimes -- but persistence is worth it!

As for the labels &#039;emerging&#039; and &#039;aspiring&#039;, I have no idea where I fit in. I try not to think about it too much... but thanks for mentioning the distinction -- it may come in handy when I&#039;m looking at grants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree about reading&#8230; and beat myself up constantly about not doing enough (even though I probably am). I&#8217;m always astounded by how much I learn about writing from reading, and never sure why it comes as such a surprise each time.</p>
<p>And I also agree that the internet (and mobile phones that allow you to check your email) are evil. </p>
<p>The only other thing I would add is to remember that writing is hard work and that you&#8217;ll probably hate it sometimes &#8212; but persistence is worth it!</p>
<p>As for the labels &#8216;emerging&#8217; and &#8216;aspiring&#8217;, I have no idea where I fit in. I try not to think about it too much&#8230; but thanks for mentioning the distinction &#8212; it may come in handy when I&#8217;m looking at grants.</p>
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		<title>By: Koraly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Koraly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 21:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ashley, agreed, with each draft I feel my writing getting better and better. 

Estelle, this is essentially what I was doing in the past working on my laptop with no internet connection. But I&#039;m still always venturing over to my computer to check my email and because of this I don&#039;t get completely in the zone, especially when all that seems to be coming through my inbox is bad news. I think it would work well for an established writer, but as an aspiring writer, it&#039;s de-motivating and distracting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ashley, agreed, with each draft I feel my writing getting better and better. </p>
<p>Estelle, this is essentially what I was doing in the past working on my laptop with no internet connection. But I&#8217;m still always venturing over to my computer to check my email and because of this I don&#8217;t get completely in the zone, especially when all that seems to be coming through my inbox is bad news. I think it would work well for an established writer, but as an aspiring writer, it&#8217;s de-motivating and distracting.</p>
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		<title>By: ashley capes</title>
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		<dc:creator>ashley capes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 11:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the &#039;read&#039; one too - I&#039;d also add one that is equally simple: &#039;write.&#039; 

It&#039;s the only way to get better at writing I suspect, to write every chance you get. It actually sounds too simple, doesn&#039;t it? But it helps me (I hope) keep improving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the &#8216;read&#8217; one too &#8211; I&#8217;d also add one that is equally simple: &#8216;write.&#8217; </p>
<p>It&#8217;s the only way to get better at writing I suspect, to write every chance you get. It actually sounds too simple, doesn&#8217;t it? But it helps me (I hope) keep improving.</p>
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		<title>By: estelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>estelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 08:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had to laugh because I started reading this when I was listening to 50 Cent&#039;s &#039;Ayo Technology&#039;: &#039;I&#039;m so tired of using technology.&#039; 

American writer Wells Tower has a fiction desk and a non-fiction desk -- the fiction one doesn&#039;t have an internet connection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to laugh because I started reading this when I was listening to 50 Cent&#8217;s &#8216;Ayo Technology&#8217;: &#8216;I&#8217;m so tired of using technology.&#8217; </p>
<p>American writer Wells Tower has a fiction desk and a non-fiction desk &#8212; the fiction one doesn&#8217;t have an internet connection.</p>
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		<title>By: Koraly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Koraly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 03:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately the TAFE courses seem to lack this component. I&#039;d very much like to study such a subject, but do take it upon myself to read as much as I can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately the TAFE courses seem to lack this component. I&#8217;d very much like to study such a subject, but do take it upon myself to read as much as I can.</p>
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		<title>By: Tara Mokhtari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tara Mokhtari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 02:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Read&quot; really belongs in the number one position. Every writing degree I&#039;ve done or taught has had a strong reading/literary analysis component, and rightly so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Read&#8221; really belongs in the number one position. Every writing degree I&#8217;ve done or taught has had a strong reading/literary analysis component, and rightly so.</p>
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		<title>By: Koraly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Koraly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 02:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alec, I know I am a writer. I define a writer as someone who writes as their primary occupation, but I&#039;d go further than that and say someone who writes cannot exist without their writing. Whether or not the publishing industry decides to publish me is beside the point - this is who I am.

But yes, I am a little annoyed with the capitalist paradigm of the publishing world. Lately I feel like it&#039;s almost as if journals are publishing the same people over and over because so and so journal had so and so write for them and so we should have them in our journal etc etc. Nobody is willing to take a punt. I guess I&#039;ve come to realise that what I&#039;m waiting for as an aspiring writer is someone to take a punt on me. Anyway, I&#039;ll keep going until someone does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alec, I know I am a writer. I define a writer as someone who writes as their primary occupation, but I&#8217;d go further than that and say someone who writes cannot exist without their writing. Whether or not the publishing industry decides to publish me is beside the point &#8211; this is who I am.</p>
<p>But yes, I am a little annoyed with the capitalist paradigm of the publishing world. Lately I feel like it&#8217;s almost as if journals are publishing the same people over and over because so and so journal had so and so write for them and so we should have them in our journal etc etc. Nobody is willing to take a punt. I guess I&#8217;ve come to realise that what I&#8217;m waiting for as an aspiring writer is someone to take a punt on me. Anyway, I&#8217;ll keep going until someone does.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Rizzetti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate Rizzetti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 00:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love this advice - and I would add to the &#039;expect to be rejected&#039; one - BUILD RESILIENCE. Sometimes it takes me weeks to get over a rejection (for heaven&#039;s sake I need to get over myself!) I liken it to the performing arts - you have to develop a really thick skin to succeed. There are a lot of talented people out there. It&#039;s the stayers who will get there in the end.
Oh - and read. Writers used to &#039;emerge&#039; from literary studies not professional writing courses. Writers learnt the craft of writing through reading and studying other&#039;s work. A book you love is great for inspiration too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love this advice &#8211; and I would add to the &#8216;expect to be rejected&#8217; one &#8211; BUILD RESILIENCE. Sometimes it takes me weeks to get over a rejection (for heaven&#8217;s sake I need to get over myself!) I liken it to the performing arts &#8211; you have to develop a really thick skin to succeed. There are a lot of talented people out there. It&#8217;s the stayers who will get there in the end.<br />
Oh &#8211; and read. Writers used to &#8216;emerge&#8217; from literary studies not professional writing courses. Writers learnt the craft of writing through reading and studying other&#8217;s work. A book you love is great for inspiration too.</p>
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		<title>By: Alec Patric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alec Patric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to think that anyone that had one or two things published was an emerging writer. I then found out that it’s a term the grants system developed. It’s not exclusively about having a book, though a book gives you enough grant points to qualify. 10 stories, published in 10 national magazines for a payment, gets you the same amount of points. Similarly you could publish poetry, but that’d have to be 25 poems. They also have a few other rungs along the way to being a &#039;Revered&#039; writer (or whatever they call the final destination) but I don’t know if it matters what you’re designated as, outside of applying for grants.

Underlying what you’re saying is a question of recognition, not a designation. As we move along our courses, develop and evolve as writers, at what point can we rightly call ourselves Writers and Authors? Sometimes that’s a psychological question and there are writers who still find that an elusive proposition even after having published a few books. Some might feel comfortable calling themselves that even when they’ve published nothing. So there’s probably two parts to recognition, how we see ourselves and how the world sees us.

That ‘expect to fail’ attitude is not possible of course, (otherwise we wouldn’t submit) but it’s certainly a safer attitude than the hope that everyone, everywhere, will always love what we commit to paper. Both extremes sound foolish, but I think most writers fluctuate from one end of that spectrum to the other. It’s difficult to find your way to the reality between those extremes.

I think that what often messes up our own valuing system is the prevailing capitalist paradigm, which throws a kind of business viability model into our minds. Asking us to determine our motivation, commitment and success through charted achievement criteria. At the other end of that spectrum is the entirely abstract sense that whatever we write is great as long as we’re writing. The difficult space between is what we all negotiate for ourselves. Aspiring, emerging or established are probably just points on the compass for that daily journey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to think that anyone that had one or two things published was an emerging writer. I then found out that it’s a term the grants system developed. It’s not exclusively about having a book, though a book gives you enough grant points to qualify. 10 stories, published in 10 national magazines for a payment, gets you the same amount of points. Similarly you could publish poetry, but that’d have to be 25 poems. They also have a few other rungs along the way to being a &#8216;Revered&#8217; writer (or whatever they call the final destination) but I don’t know if it matters what you’re designated as, outside of applying for grants.</p>
<p>Underlying what you’re saying is a question of recognition, not a designation. As we move along our courses, develop and evolve as writers, at what point can we rightly call ourselves Writers and Authors? Sometimes that’s a psychological question and there are writers who still find that an elusive proposition even after having published a few books. Some might feel comfortable calling themselves that even when they’ve published nothing. So there’s probably two parts to recognition, how we see ourselves and how the world sees us.</p>
<p>That ‘expect to fail’ attitude is not possible of course, (otherwise we wouldn’t submit) but it’s certainly a safer attitude than the hope that everyone, everywhere, will always love what we commit to paper. Both extremes sound foolish, but I think most writers fluctuate from one end of that spectrum to the other. It’s difficult to find your way to the reality between those extremes.</p>
<p>I think that what often messes up our own valuing system is the prevailing capitalist paradigm, which throws a kind of business viability model into our minds. Asking us to determine our motivation, commitment and success through charted achievement criteria. At the other end of that spectrum is the entirely abstract sense that whatever we write is great as long as we’re writing. The difficult space between is what we all negotiate for ourselves. Aspiring, emerging or established are probably just points on the compass for that daily journey.</p>
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		<title>By: Koraly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Koraly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tara, I&#039;ve read that poem before. It&#039;s so true!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tara, I&#8217;ve read that poem before. It&#8217;s so true!</p>
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		<title>By: Koraly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Koraly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all, thanks for your comments. Great to see others sharing my grief. I have another one, following on from Tara:

14. The industry takes advantage of aspiring writers. This is a part of life. Accept it and move on, but don&#039;t enter competitions where they ask for money if you have no money. You won&#039;t win anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all, thanks for your comments. Great to see others sharing my grief. I have another one, following on from Tara:</p>
<p>14. The industry takes advantage of aspiring writers. This is a part of life. Accept it and move on, but don&#8217;t enter competitions where they ask for money if you have no money. You won&#8217;t win anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: emerging writer</title>
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		<dc:creator>emerging writer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I call myself an emerging writer...!
Thanks for the points. I&#039;m definitely guilty of over-using the internet. I&#039;ll stop now, really. Or decrease. Really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I call myself an emerging writer&#8230;!<br />
Thanks for the points. I&#8217;m definitely guilty of over-using the internet. I&#8217;ll stop now, really. Or decrease. Really.</p>
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		<title>By: phill</title>
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		<dc:creator>phill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 14:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2. Laughed at this one, I like the distinction. (:

3. I dunno about this kind of attitude. It seems like it&#039;s one tenuous step away from just not bothering to submit at all. Unless if by expecting your work to be rejected, your placing the responsibility of that rejection wholly on the editor/judge rather than your ability. Then I guess that lets you have the egotism that all writers require. d:

8. I&#039;ve always suspected this! It&#039;s kind of a result of judges being human. I mean, I know I go through periods of disliking a band or author or artist, and then suddenly I&#039;ll turn around and be amazed. Why didn&#039;t I see this before? Judges have periodic tastes as well, methinks.

I whole-heartedly agree with &#039;zz&#039; above with regards to the &#039;talking not doing&#039; thing. Talkign shop with otehr writers is aewsome, and it can help you get excited and motivated. But do it too much and you risk becoming one of those people that like to talk about being a writer more than doing the requisite deed of, y&#039;know, putting words on paper. Walk the walk before talking the talk, yo.

As someone who still very much considers himself a hobby writer, I wish I hadn&#039;t shown so much of my stuff to people. If there was one thing I could go back and change it would be to keep a lot of the awful, ill-thought-through pieces I&#039;ve written to myself. Not every experimental/edgy/transgressive masterpiece is actually that! D: Perhaps a soft limit of 5% would be appropriate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2. Laughed at this one, I like the distinction. (:</p>
<p>3. I dunno about this kind of attitude. It seems like it&#8217;s one tenuous step away from just not bothering to submit at all. Unless if by expecting your work to be rejected, your placing the responsibility of that rejection wholly on the editor/judge rather than your ability. Then I guess that lets you have the egotism that all writers require. d:</p>
<p>8. I&#8217;ve always suspected this! It&#8217;s kind of a result of judges being human. I mean, I know I go through periods of disliking a band or author or artist, and then suddenly I&#8217;ll turn around and be amazed. Why didn&#8217;t I see this before? Judges have periodic tastes as well, methinks.</p>
<p>I whole-heartedly agree with &#8216;zz&#8217; above with regards to the &#8216;talking not doing&#8217; thing. Talkign shop with otehr writers is aewsome, and it can help you get excited and motivated. But do it too much and you risk becoming one of those people that like to talk about being a writer more than doing the requisite deed of, y&#8217;know, putting words on paper. Walk the walk before talking the talk, yo.</p>
<p>As someone who still very much considers himself a hobby writer, I wish I hadn&#8217;t shown so much of my stuff to people. If there was one thing I could go back and change it would be to keep a lot of the awful, ill-thought-through pieces I&#8217;ve written to myself. Not every experimental/edgy/transgressive masterpiece is actually that! D: Perhaps a soft limit of 5% would be appropriate?</p>
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